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Time to start calling your representatives. This is a truly horrible bill.
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House bill threatens new technology innovation and America jobs
By Markham Erickson, Executive Director of Net Coalition - 11/14/11
thehill.com/blogs/congre...RCuCU.twitter
There’s a hearing in the U.S. House of Representatives this week that could determine the future of how we use the Internet. On November 16, the House Judiciary Committee will meet to discuss the Stop Online Piracy Act, referred to as SOPA. SOPA and its Senate counterpart, the Protect IP ACT (PIPA), sound innocuous enough and their goal is a good one—stopping offshore, online piracy and copyright infringement.
Unfortunately, this legislation severely threatens lawful, U.S. technology industries by overturning the existing laws that have helped fuel the tech boom of the last decade and instituting new regulations which would stifle innovation and job creation. Both bills gut the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), which for over a decade has helped Internet companies grow and flourish. The DMCA is one of the big reasons companies like Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter weren’t crushed in their early days by harassing lawsuits.
more at link
House bill threatens new technology innovation and America jobs
By Markham Erickson, Executive Director of Net Coalition - 11/14/11
thehill.com/blogs/congre...RCuCU.twitter
There’s a hearing in the U.S. House of Representatives this week that could determine the future of how we use the Internet. On November 16, the House Judiciary Committee will meet to discuss the Stop Online Piracy Act, referred to as SOPA. SOPA and its Senate counterpart, the Protect IP ACT (PIPA), sound innocuous enough and their goal is a good one—stopping offshore, online piracy and copyright infringement.
Unfortunately, this legislation severely threatens lawful, U.S. technology industries by overturning the existing laws that have helped fuel the tech boom of the last decade and instituting new regulations which would stifle innovation and job creation. Both bills gut the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), which for over a decade has helped Internet companies grow and flourish. The DMCA is one of the big reasons companies like Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter weren’t crushed in their early days by harassing lawsuits.
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Re: SOPA - could kill Tribe, Twitter, FB & other tech industries
Wed, November 16, 2011 - 10:04 AMIs that part of this:
idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/201....php
This seems to be a move by the DOJ to make any violation of terms of service/use a criminal offense—I like how this is debunked by witnesses before the congressional committee contemplating this nonsense. -
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Wed, November 16, 2011 - 10:15 AMNo, that's a separate issue -- not quite as bad as SOPA, but pretty bad. The DOJ has been trying to expand the CFAA for years - and they thought they were going to get a big win in the Lori Drew case. Thankfully that didn't happen (even though what Lori Drew did was reprehensible).
SOPA expands copyright law in ways that are just unbelievable. Congressional hearings are going on today, and the deck is stacked in favor of the entertainment industry. The language in SOPA could require so much work for a Tribe or a Facebook -- and especially youtube, that all of these sites (and more) could be forced to shut down.
If you want to know more about SOPA, go on over to techdirt -- their whole site is about SOPA today. They've done some superb analysis of the issue. www.techdirt.com/
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Wed, November 16, 2011 - 11:55 AMAnd -- CCFA = Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. Sorry for the acronym.
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Wed, November 16, 2011 - 4:02 PMScary that the committee looking into this law is so technologically clueless. -
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Wed, November 16, 2011 - 4:08 PM>Scary that the committee looking into this law is so technologically clueless.
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Mon, November 28, 2011 - 2:42 PMMore info -- also petitions.
Now that SOPA is starting to get on the radar
Excellent post by Kos - short too. Good graphics
Congress is close to destroying the internet (no hyperbole)
www.dailykos.com/story/201...perbole%29
The Petition to Stop Internet Censorship and the Great Firewall of America
c4sif.org/2011/11/the-p...-america/#SOPA
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Tue, December 6, 2011 - 5:44 PMcongress clueless? who woulda thunk it? -
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Wed, December 14, 2011 - 6:29 PMThe bill will be marked-up tomorrow (Thursday). There is still time to call your congress person and tell them to vote 'no'.
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Wed, December 14, 2011 - 7:18 PMvolokh.com/2011/12/14/sopa-rope-a-dope/
SOPA-Rope-a-dope
Stewart Baker • December 14, 2011 8:26 pm
Critics of the Stop Online Piracy Act (H.R. 3261) have had an impact. A manager’s amendment has been offered by Lamar Smith, R-TX, the Judiciary Committee chairman. I was critical of the first version. Here’s my take on the new version.
This version contains several provisions aimed at the security concerns raised about the first version. The new bill insists that it is imposing no technology mandate and that it should not be construed to impair the security of the domain name system or the network of an ISP that receives an order. And it whittles away at the original requirement that ISPs must “block and redirect” visitors to pirate sites. Now, the ISPs are only obliged to block those efforts, not to redirect the subscribers to an alternative site that warns against piracy. ISPs also get a safe harbor that allows them some assurance that they don’t have to redesign their networks to carry out the blocking.
Unfortunately, the new version would still do great damage to Internet security, mainly by putting obstacles in the way of DNSSEC, a protocol designed to limit certain kinds of Internet crime. Today, it’s not uncommon for crooks to take over Internet connections in hotels, coffee shops and airports — and then to direct users to fake websites. Users sent to a fake banking site are prompted to enter account and password data, which is used to loot the account. DNSSEC prevents such attacks by giving each website a signed credential that must be shown to the browser by the domain name system server before the connection can be completed.
That’s a great idea, but crooks will predictably try to override it. Their best bet is to claim that the website doesn’t have a signed credential – a claim that will be plausible at least during the transition to DNSSEC. What should a browser do if a website says it doesn’t have a signed credential yet? The site might be telling the truth, or it might be a fake site backed by a DNS server that’s been tampered with. To find out, the browser needs to ask a second DNS server, and if that server doesn’t give an answer, a third and a fourth server until it gets an answer. That’s the only way to keep criminals from blocking the real DNS credentials and offering their own.
Unfortunately, the things a browser does to bypass a criminal site will also defeat SOPA’s scheme for blocking pirate sites. SOPA envisions the AG telling ISPs to block the address of www.piracy.com. So the browsers get no information about www.piracy.com from the ISP’s DNS server. Faced with silence from that server, the browser will go into fraud-prevention mode, casting about to find another DNS server that can give it the address. Eventually, it will find a server in, say, Canada. Free from the Attorney’ General’s jurisdiction, the server will provide a signed address for piracy.com, and the browser will take its user to the authenticated site.
That’s what the browser should do if it’s dealing with a hijacked DNS server. But browser code can’t tell the Attorney General from a hijacker, so it will end up treating them both the same. And from the AG’s point of view, the browser’s efforts to find an authoritative DNS server will look like a deliberate effort to evade his blocking order.
The latest version of SOPA will feed that view. It allows the AG to sue “any entity that knowingly and willfully provides …a product … designed by such entity or by another in concert with such entity for the circumvention or bypassing of” the AG’s blocking orders.
It’s hard to escape the conclusion that this provision is aimed squarely at the browser companies. Browsers implementing DNSSEC will have to circumvent and bypass criminal blocking, and in the process, they will also circumvent and bypass SOPA orders. The new bill allows the AG to sue the browsers if he decides he cares more about enforcing his blocking orders than about the security risks faced by Internet users. Indeed, the opaque language about “another in concert with such entity” makes perfect sense in the context of browser extensions. It allows the AG to sue not just browsers but also add-ons with this feature.
OK, that’s the law. Now imagine you are Microsoft, or Google, or Apple, or Mozilla. The DNSSEC guys come to you and ask you to implement DNSSEC. It won’t increase your revenue, they admit, but it will make the Internet much safer for your users. You want to be a good internet citizen, so you think maybe you should devote some precious code-writing resources to the cause. But first you ask your lawyers whether they foresee any problems.
“Well, yes,” they’d have to say. “If you add code to the browser that implements DNSSEC, you’ll have to add code that circumvents criminal hijackings of the DNS system. And that code can be declared illegal by the Attorney General pretty much whenever he likes. You can litigate about it, of course, but if you lose, the AG can shut down all shipments of your browser until it’s been revised to the satisfaction of his staff and their advisers in Hollywood.”
Faced with that advice, would you implement DNSSEC?
Neither would I.
In fact, I wouldn’t even allow the DNSSEC guys to write an extension that implemented their protocol. And so, by poising a sword of Damocles over the browser companies, SOPA will kill DNSSEC.
Let’s hope that the opposition to SOPA hasn’t punched itself out against the first version of the bill, because this version is badly in need of a knockout punch.
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Re: SOPA - could kill Tribe, Twitter, FB & other tech industries
Wed, December 14, 2011 - 7:26 PMStewart Baker is a very, very smart man. Former general counsel of the NSA - look at his bio -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Baker
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Thu, December 15, 2011 - 3:06 PMThe hearings are going on right now (3pm Pacific) -- there's still time to call your congress people if you haven't done so already!! -
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Fri, December 16, 2011 - 4:12 PMGood news and bad news.
The good news was the markup was halted this morning so that they could get more information. We thought this meant that they wouldn't get back to the bill until well after the new year.
The bad news is that we were wrong. The markup is scheduled for next Wednesday if the House is in session.
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Sat, December 17, 2011 - 2:45 AMEnough time if one is on a war footing…
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Re: SOPA - could kill Tribe, Twitter, FB & other tech industries
Sat, December 17, 2011 - 6:40 PMit just gives opponents more time to expose this bill for the shitty bill it is.
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Tue, January 3, 2012 - 9:40 AMboingboing.net/2011/12/27...ives-i.html
TorrentFreak continues to crawl through YouHaveDownloaded, a database of IPs that have been logged by a BitTorrent-spying tool run by some folks in Russia. They've already revealed the downloading habits of the RIAA and DHS as well as the behavior detected at Nicholas Sarkozy's official residence, and now they're publishing stats on the US House of Representatives.
The House, of course, has been mired in Internet controversy since Rep Lamar Smith introduced his Stop Online Piracy Act, which establishes a regime of national censorship in the name of fighting copyright infringement. So it is with some amusement that TorrentFreak points out that more than 800 of the IP addresses assigned to the House of Reps were involved in copyright infringement over BitTorrent, according to the YHD database. There's a big trove of self-help books in there, with titles like "Crucial Conversations- Tools for Talking When Stakes Are High," and who knows, maybe that's what Mr Smith was reading when he decided to sell out America to Hollywood?
Something that immediately caught our eye are the self-help books that are downloaded in the House. “Crucial Conversations- Tools for Talking When Stakes Are High,” for example, may indeed be of interest to the political elite in the United States. And “How to Answer Hard Interview Questions And Everything Else You Need to Know to Get the Job You Want” may be helpful for those who aspire to higher positions.
Books tend to be popular in the House because we found quite a few more, including “Do Not Open – An Encyclopedia of the World’s Best-Kept Secrets” and “How Things Work Encyclopedia”. But of course the people at the heart of democracy are also downloading familiar content such as Windows 7, popular TV-shows and movies.
And there was another category we ran into more than we would have wanted too. It appears that aside from self-help books, House employees are also into adult themed self-help videos. We’ll list one of the least explicit here below, but that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
As for me, I'm just shocked (and a little bit heartened, to be honest) to learn that there's someone in the House who knows how to use the Internet.
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Fri, January 13, 2012 - 11:43 AMwww.vice.com/read/lamar-...right-whoops
The Author of SOPA Is a Copyright Violator
By Jamie Lee Curtis Taete
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Re: SOPA - could kill Tribe, Twitter, FB & other tech industries
Fri, January 13, 2012 - 12:17 PM"The DMCA is one of the big reasons companies like Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter weren’t crushed in their early days by harassing lawsuits."
That was then, when the internet was in its infancy. Arguments that the law should never be changed now ring hollow. The internet, faceboo and Twitter are not going to go away just because web sites have to implement greater measures to stop their sites from being used as tools for piracy.
Now tribe.net might not survive any change, but that is because the operation is barely viable already, according to the last time I heard anything about it from New Systems Associates (NSA), its current administrators. -
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Fri, January 13, 2012 - 12:21 PMThe internet has flourished at the grevious expense of other industries that made their revenue from the enforceability of copyrights, like the record industry, the music industry, newspapers, magazines, film, TV, etc. Not all of this flourish of the internet is so good. It has enriched pirates and criminals at the expense of legitimate businesses that had payrolls to meet. And some of the loudest voices protesting SOPA are various associations whose members are pirates.
Your argument will not be convincing until you pay more than lip service to the fight against copyright pirates. Are you prepared to bite the hand that feeds you and organizations like the Electronic Freedom Foundation? In other words, are you prepared to turn your back on the pirates?
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Fri, January 13, 2012 - 1:51 PM>The internet has flourished at the grevious expense of other industries that made their revenue from the enforceability of copyrights, like the record industry, the music industry, newspapers, magazines, film, TV, etc. Not all of this flourish of the internet is so good. It has enriched pirates and criminals at the expense of legitimate businesses that had payrolls to meet. And some of the loudest voices protesting SOPA are various associations whose members are pirates.
If we want legislation to combat theft then it needs to be written narrowly so as not to break the Net. There's a reason why tech companies are against SOPA. And seriously, go read what Stewart Baker has to say about SOPA harming security. Then come back and we'll talk.
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Fri, January 13, 2012 - 5:23 PMAnd here's the latest from Ars
Under voter pressure, members of Congress backpedal (hard) on SOPA
By Timothy B. Lee | Published January 13, 2012
arstechnica.com/tech-polic...on-sopa.ars
It's far, far from over, but this is a good start.
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Re: SOPA - could kill Tribe, Twitter, FB & other tech industries
Sat, January 14, 2012 - 5:09 PMNo, don't tell me to go read something and then come back and we'll talk.
See, I am not trying to persuade you. You are trying to persuade me. And Congress. And the Senate. All of whom are finally taking a stand against piracy. And we want to know if you are on board with that, or really just an errand boy for the pirates. So when I asked about piracy, you dodge the question.
Figured as much. You're "okay" with piracy. Probably own a vast collection of copyrighted music you didn't pay for. Big napster fan and what not.
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Sun, January 15, 2012 - 4:44 PM>It's payback time. If this is the undoing of the web, it's because too much of the web community is okay with pirates or at leastlooked the other way
That's a pretty breath taking comment. If that's how you really feel, there's nothing I can do to try to persuade you, so I'm not going to try. -
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Mon, January 16, 2012 - 6:00 PM>It's payback time. If this is the undoing of the web, it's because too much of the web community is okay with pirates or at leastlooked the other way
That's a pretty breath taking comment. If that's how you really feel, there's nothing I can do to try to persuade you, so I'm not going to try.
--then you're not much of a court room lawyer, are you? Good god, what would you do if a judge asked you a hard question? The fact is, entire industries have been destroyed by internet piracy, and your only response is "there's nothing I can do to try to persaude you."
That's a losing response. Truth is, you have no response, because you sit around preaching to the choir all day and are not prepared to defend your cause against its critics. -
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Mon, January 16, 2012 - 7:33 PMwww.techdirt.com/articles/...deas.shtml
<And, as we've seen with near perfect consistency, the best way, by far, to decrease infringement is to offer awesome new services that are convenient and useful. This doesn't mean just offering any old service -- and it certainly doesn't mean trying to limit what users can do with those services. And, most importantly, it doesn't mean treating consumers like they were criminals and "pirates." It means constantly improving the consumer experience. When that consumer experience is great, then people switch in droves. You can, absolutely, compete with free, and many do so. If more were able to without restriction, infringement would decrease. If you look at the two largest contributors to holding back "piracy" lately, it's been Netflix and Spotify. Those two services alone have been orders of magnitude more successful in decreasing infringement than any new copyright law. Because they compete by being more convenient and a better experience than infringement.> -
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Mon, January 16, 2012 - 8:21 PMOh brother. You justify your piracy because the owner of the copyright didn't offer you a product that you had to pay for that you would prefer to product that was free because you stole it.
that pretty much sums up the moral bankruptcy of your entire existance, Gerbil. You're a leech.
And now it is payback time. This is what low life pirates and thieves have wrought. Congress is coming to get ya. -
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Sun, January 15, 2012 - 5:33 PMwww.nytimes.com/2012/01/15...-bills.html
January 14, 2012
White House Says It Opposes Parts of Two Antipiracy Bills
By EDWARD WYATT
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration said Saturday that it strongly opposed central elements of two Congressional efforts to enforce copyrights on the Internet, all but killing the current versions of legislation that has divided both political parties and pitted Hollywood against Silicon Valley.
The comments by the administration’s chief technology officials, posted on a White House blog Saturday, came as growing opposition to the legislation had already led sponsors of the bills to reconsider a measure that would force Internet service providers to block access to Web sites that offer or link to copyrighted material. -
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Sun, January 15, 2012 - 6:30 PMAnd this, from Cory Doctorow. I think he sums up nicely what's at stake.
Boing Boing will go dark on Jan 18 to fight SOPA
By Cory Doctorow at 4:08 pm Saturday, Jan 14
boingboing.net/
On January 18, Boing Boing will join Reddit and other sites around the Internet in "going dark" to oppose SOPA and PIPA, the pending US legislation that creates a punishing Internet censorship regime and exports it to the rest of the world. Boing Boing could never co-exist with a SOPA world: we could not ever link to another website unless we were sure that no links to anything that infringes copyright appeared on that site. So in order to link to a URL on LiveJournal or WordPress or Twitter or Blogspot, we'd have to first confirm that no one had ever made an infringing link, anywhere on that site. Making one link would require checking millions (even tens of millions) of pages, just to be sure that we weren't in some way impinging on the ability of five Hollywood studios, four multinational record labels, and six global publishers to maximize their profits.
If we failed to take this precaution, our finances could be frozen, our ad broker forced to pull ads from our site, and depending on which version of the bill goes to the vote, our domains confiscated, and, because our server is in Canada, our IP address would be added to a US-wide blacklist that every ISP in the country would be required to censor.
This is the part of the post where I'm supposed to say something reasonable like, "Everyone agrees that piracy is wrong, but this is the wrong way to fight it."
But you know what? Screw that.
Even though a substantial portion of my living comes from the entertainment industry, I don't think that any amount of "piracy" justifies this kind of depraved indifference to the consequences of one's actions. Big Content haven't just declared war on Boing Boing and Reddit and the rest of the "fun" Internet: they've declared war on every person who uses the net to publicize police brutality, every oppressed person in the Arab Spring who used the net to organize protests and publicize the blood spilled by their oppressors, every abused kid who used the net to reveal her father as a brutalizer of children, every gay kid who used the net to discover that life is worth living despite the torment she's experiencing, every grassroots political campaigner who uses the net to make her community a better place -- as well as the scientists who collaborate online, the rescue workers who coordinate online, the makers who trade tips online, the people with rare diseases who support each other online, and the independent creators who use the Internet to earn their livings.
The contempt for human rights on display with SOPA and PIPA is more than foolish. Foolishness can be excused. It's more than greed. Greed is only to be expected. It is evil, and it must be fought.
SOPA Strike is compiling a list of sites that are also going dark for Jan 18. If you want an Internet where human rights, free speech and the rule of law are not subordinated to the entertainment industry's profits, I hope you'll join us on it.
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Sun, January 15, 2012 - 9:01 PMimg21.imageshack.us/img21/46...lacar.jpg
a handy guide to file-sharing:
whatimg.com/images/viupg...wj5supz8x.png
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Mon, January 16, 2012 - 6:15 PMwww.digitaltrends.com/computi...ntinues/
With a vote on the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) delayed indefinitely due to political pressure, Reddit.com has confirmed with Digital Trends that it still plans to blackout the popular site on Wednesday, in protest of the equally-controversial Protect IP Act (PIPA).
UPDATE: Wikipedia will also blackout its pages on Wednesday. See more details here, and below.
A vote on the controversial Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) has been delayed indefinitely, but the fight against Internet censorship continues: Reddit.com will go forward with its site-wide blackout on Wednesday, January 18, to protest the Senate’s Protect IP Act (PIPA), Digital Trends has confirmed. PIPA, a similar bill to SOPA, is scheduled to go up for a vote before the Senate on January 24. -
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Mon, January 16, 2012 - 6:24 PMI read an interesting post by Lauren Weinstein today about the blackouts.
Here's a clip from his blog post
SOPA/PIPA Protest Blackouts Are Misguided
lauren.vortex.com/archive/000930.html
As much as I abhor SOPA and PIPA, I do not feel that voluntarily cutting the Internet community off from important resources for significant periods of time is an appropriate course of action. It penalizes vast numbers of Internet users around the globe, not specifically the proponents of SOPA and PIPA.
Rather than "blacking out" a site (and presumably only displaying information about how to fight SOPA/PIPA. with access to normal functions unavailable), a far more logical, sensible, and prudent approach, that would likely be even more effective in this battle, would be for protesting sites to display a "splash page" with information explaining how to contact your Congressional representatives and express your displeasure with these legislative efforts.
Splash pages could either time out automatically and continue through to the normal site after some number of seconds, and/or permit users to click through to the regular site resources after some specified period of time (again, some number of seconds).
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Fri, January 20, 2012 - 9:24 AMThe protests yesterday had an effect.
more at link
SOPA, PIPA votes to be delayed in House and Senate
By Paul Kane
www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...og.html
Update, 11:16 a.m.:
Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Tex.), author of the Stop Online Privacy Act, said on Friday that he is postponing consideration of the bill in response to concerns from critics who said the bill could lead to censorship.
“I have heard from the critics and I take seriously their concerns regarding proposed legislation to address the problem of online piracy,” Smith said in a statement. “It is clear that we need to revisit the approach on how best to address the problem of foreign thieves that steal and sell American inventions and products.”
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Fri, January 20, 2012 - 10:47 AMnews.cnet.com/8301-31322_...ybody-loses/
In the aftermath of Wednesday's SOPA/PIPA blackout protests, the Internet community amassed quite a bit of goodwill, flexed its muscles in a friendly, humorous, civil-disobedience kind of way, and, remarkably, even managed to change quite a few minds.
Just 24 short hours later, Anonymous legions nuked that goodwill and took cyber security into thermonuclear territory. The real question now is: were they played? -
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Tue, January 24, 2012 - 9:46 PMWhat the heck is Molly Wood going on about here?! Basically, there were arrests in New Zealand by New Zealand officials. They don't have an iron in the fire when it comes to SOPA/PIPA, so how the heck is this some sort of coordinated conspiracy…further, no one I know of is drawing any correlation betweenn SOPA/PIPA and these arrests. The timing purely a coincidence as far as is known given current evidence available. Trying to turn this into some sort of grand plot only helps sell ad-clicks.
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